The Case for Pakistan as a Civilizational State

[peagle]

Well Iran was never colonized. They kept their culture and system for a longer time.
And that explains why even to this day they don't get along with western powers and facing sanctions and war. They are very proud people who cant be subdued. Not like pakistan where US and other western powers has a huge influence in decision making.

If you want to be technical.
Do you think the Arabs and Mongols went to Iran for a package holiday?
Colonised isn't just about European, that's lazy and convenient. There's a massive span of history before the European conquests.
It's any occupation.

Then you also have the Greeks and the Turks i suppose.

 

[peagle]

Technically no, since there was no country by that name. Of course you probably mean present-day Iran.

Yes it so. Even "Greece" did not exist at that time. Only as a pan-ethnicity but no country as Greece was recorded at that time.

When you start getting technical, india wasn't colonised either. It did not exist. The British literally named and created india.
Most of the countries in the world did not have their names so they were not colonised either i suppose.

Let's not create confusion, when people refer to being colonised they're not referring to the present day name, it's the land and the people.
The point made by watander sahib was extremely relevant and historically accurate.

 

[clutch]

Another clown. You're right - could almost be one of our own Indian guests on this very forum.

Doesn't matter that the Indus was named after anything in the Vedas. Doesn't matter that the inhabitants are now monotheistic.

If either of these did matter, druids and shamans could lay claim to Britain immediately and drive out all white Christian anglo-saxons from that land. In fact, we are more native to Pakistan than anglo-saxons are to Britain.

This is a great comment

 

[The Sundance Kid]

I've noticed Harappan civilization and Bronze age Pakistan increasingly being used and used interchangeably.

Rightfully so.