HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[Yasser76]

well great if you think 18 F16 BLK52s and 36 J10s or for that matter a squad or two if you get them from china of FC31 will be ok to fight and make Indian goveremnt agree to your terms of peace agreement then i too want the stuff your smoking

Yeah, well we did OK against your super dupa Death Stars and milleneum Falcons in 2019, so do not worry about PAF. Even with no money we collect IAF fighter tails for our trophy cabinets

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

@Guru Dutt

One Genius is saying Tejas is better than KF21.

KF-21 will still take 10-12 years to become fully operational and will remain a fourth-generation fighter jet. In contrast, Tejas MK1 block has been in service for the past 12 years and Tejas MK1A, an upgraded, mature, and refined version of Tejas MK1 is a battle-ready platform

 

[Guru Dutt]

@Guru Dutt

One Genius is saying Tejas is better than KF21.

well tell me eienstien
1.do you have so called supr duper KF21 as of now in PAF

2.or will ever koreans sell that to pakistan ?

but we have LCA MK1A and orderred 180 of them and by the time the last ones trickle in your suppa duppa KF21s first batch will start trickelling in who knows by then whats on LCA or its new verssion the roumored MK1B or MK1/2B as they call them so as they one bird in hand is better than two in the bush so chill no need to get your panties in a twist

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

well tell me eienstien do you have so called supr duper KF21 as of now but we have LCA MK1A and orderred 180 of them and by the time the last ones trickle in your suppa duppa KF21s first batch will start trickelling in who knows by then whats on LCA or its new verssion the roumored MK1B or MK1/2B as they call them so as they one bird in hand is better than two in the bush so chill no need to get your panties in a twist

KF-21 will still take 10-12 years to become fully operational

and will remain a fourth-generation fighter jet. (and Tejas is what? 5th gen or maybe better)

In contrast, Tejas MK1 block has been in service for the past 12 years (That's 2012, not 2016)

and Tejas MK1A, an upgraded, mature, and refined version of Tejas MK1 is a battle-ready platform (a plane which is not yet inducted)

and you say nothing wrong in it?

Let's end this here.

 

[TAC]

well its just delayed not stalled for ever they will start trickelling in but tell me

1. do you have moeny to buy new KF21 from korea or Hurrjet from Turkiye ?

2. can you buy new Grippen or F16 BLK72 from USA or Sweden if the need be ?

well you cant buy anything but we can buy anything and anyone who has that capability is now more than eager to sell there weapons to us including Turkiye and South Korea to USA to Sweden France or Russia all of which you cant even dream to buy cause niether saudies nor USA is ready to finance your purchases

so chill and dont try to find hapinness in others incation rather try to find it with your own achievements

Ok will do, 2019 Swift Retort Doesn’t matter what someone can buy, if they don’t use it properly. Give a monkey a knife or a gun, he’s still gonna do more damage to himself than anyone else Damn good quality and expensive missile - that they would only sell to India and only India could afford - that shot down your own helicopter

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

your talking big looks good when you purchase something with your own money nstead of SOFT LOANS or coilation support funds

now as for KF21 its a dream for you just like a self sustaining economy for pakistan

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Dear where did I say Pakistan is going to buy KF21? That's not the topic of discussion with you. I only saying don't talk non-sense. Have logical debate. That's was a post of Indian which is full of illogical points and that's I tried to communicate to you. If you keep insisting on typical indian fanboy behaviour than continue and be happy and excuse me for all this foolishness.

 

[Yasser76]

well its just delayed not stalled for ever they will start trickelling in but tell me

1. do you have moeny to buy new KF21 from korea or Hurrjet from Turkiye ?

2. can you buy new Grippen or F16 BLK72 from USA or Sweden if the need be ?

well you cant buy anything but we can buy anything and anyone who has that capability is now more than eager to sell there weapons to us including Turkiye and South Korea to USA to Sweden France or Russia all of which you cant even dream to buy cause niether saudies nor USA is ready to finance your purchases

so chill and dont try to find hapinness in others incation rather try to find it with your own achievements

Yes, when FC-31 is undetected and can shoot down pretty much any IAF plane in service, I am sure Indian pilots will be wondering about funding and IMF loans....

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Yes, when FC-31 is undetected and can shoot down pretty much any IAF plane in service, I am sure Indian pilots will be wondering about funding and IMF loans....

Then it will be "AGAR F-35 HOTA........ "

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

first bring KF21 of J21 of J31 or whatever you call them then talk big until them try figure owt where next loan ammount is comming

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Obviously You can't be like me.

After knowing you, I will never argue with you, because you will drag me down to your level and then beat me with experience.

 

[Yasser76]

first bring KF21 of J21 of J31 or whatever you call them then talk big until them try figure owt where next loan ammount is comming

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According to ACM of PAF FC-31 is on the way. Trust me when I say the entire forum will take his word over yours, but thanks for the concern. If I was you I would be wondering about how IAF stops FC-31 wiping it out on first day of war.

 

[TopGun786]

Dear where did I say Pakistan is going to buy KF21? That's not the topic of discussion with you. I only saying don't talk non-sense. Have logical debate. That's was a post of Indian which is full of illogical points and that's I tried to communicate to you. If you keep insisting on typical indian fanboy behaviour than continue and be happy and excuse me for all this foolishness.

He is constantly spewing nonsense.
Making up things himself and saying whatever comes in his little mind.
The guy is a primary school back bencher and talk like a "phatta huva dhol".
I don't think he knows this is a defence forum.
I reported his multiple comments
You guys also do please. He is polluting forum a lot.

 

[Pataliputra]

Seriously the world need indian certification for any jet to be 5th Gen. Otherwise they are not

For Indian their Tejas are even better than Rafael, Not to mention J20, J16, J10 and other Chinese goodies. With that mental level you are saying because indian don't think J20 as fifth gen so it is not 5th gen. Stupidity at it's peak.

Tejas is as modern as Rafales, gripen or Euro fighter typhoon

 

[vikNerv]

Lot of hate and insecurity going around in this thread. Posts completely clouded by obvious bias from both sides. Can we please stop comparing LCA to every other aircraft out there and just accept the most basic truth, it's a decent aircraft but program has some teething supply chain issues.

The program as a whole has done great good for our aviation industry but we need more political will to carry forward the gains from the program. As for the plane itself, from all things I have read so far, it's pretty decent and will do the job it is intended to do (interceptor role) for quiet some time. Ofcourse there will be 5 th gen fighters it might have to contend with in the air, but remember its not just two individual systems that go up against each other, ecosystems face off each other. LCA won't be up there alone, it will have other air and ground assets complementing it and supporting it, everything from ground and aerial radars to SAM networks, UAVs and other fighters (5th gen too). Sure, in a one on one fight with say the latest f16 or 5th gen fighters the odds are heavily stacked against the Tejas, but when entire ecosystems face off against each other, it's hard to say which combined system one will trump the other.
Point is, all this talk about which aircraft is better or if Tejas is relavant or not are moot if you arent discussing these other systems too.


I just wish the culture in HAL and MoD also changed with times and kept pace with the progress this program made. Our mindset in HAL and MoD (from HR and political standpoint) is still stuck in the 80s.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Tejas is as modern as Rafales, gripen or Euro fighter typhoon

It's might be more modern than Rafale and Euro Fighter but definitely less capable. Tejas is very good fighter jet in it's class but claiming it's better than 5th Gen or even Rafale, EuroFighter, F16 Block-70 & J10C is foolishness and nothing.

As @vikNerv said yes in fight whole ecosystem involved and that's a major factor but on one on one comparison, Keep LCA Tejas in it's place. @Pataliputra If you want to compare Tejas, compare it with JF17, Older block of F-16, Gripen etc but please compare logically and with facts which is acceptable to world.

Lot of hate and insecurity going around in this thread. Posts completely clouded by obvious bias from both sides. Can we please stop comparing LCA to every other aircraft out there and just accept the most basic truth, it's a decent aircraft but program has some teething supply chain issues.

The program as a whole has done great good for our aviation industry but we need more political will to carry forward the gains from the program. As for the plane itself, from all things I have read so far, it's pretty decent and will do the job it is intended to do (interceptor role) for quiet some time. Ofcourse there will be 5 th gen fighters it might have to contend with in the air, but remember its not just two individual systems that go up against each other, ecosystems face off each other. LCA won't be up there alone, it will have other air and ground assets complementing it and supporting it, everything from ground and aerial radars to SAM networks, UAVs and other fighters (5th gen too). Sure, in a one on one fight with say the latest f16 or 5th gen fighters the odds are heavily stacked against the Tejas, but when entire ecosystems face off against each other, it's hard to say which combined system one will trump the other.
Point is, all this talk about which aircraft is better or if Tejas is relavant or not are moot if you arent discussing these other systems too.


I just wish the culture in HAL and MoD also changed with times and kept pace with the progress this program made. Our mindset in HAL and MoD (from HR and political standpoint) is still stuck in the 80s.

@vikNerv agreed with you dear.

 

[Deino]

Tejas is as modern as Rafales, gripen or Euro fighter typhoon

Not that BS again