Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

However, now world is prepared for it. Its obvious that world as a whole will adjust to new reality as time passes.

So what is the point of reaching a MOU, agreement, deal or treaty with iranians?.
If their military loosses are just negligible and US is controlling the SOH or better said, the collateral effects of the "non blockade" why to reach an agreement?.
To whom do you think are talking?.

 

[Ali_Baba]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Magi]

5 million barrels a day pass through the Omani corridor.
4+ million barrels/day through Yanbu/Suez.
1.8 million from Fujairah.
5 million barrel/day reduction in purchases by Chin. China can sustain that almost indefinitely with their massive reserves.
Iran is apparently selling some oil from tankers parked near China.

All the above add up to 17-18 million barrels a day.

20-21 million barrels a day passed through the Strait of Hormuz before the war.

That is only about a 3 million barrel reduction in supply. The world and US strategic reserves can carry this forward for a very long time.

Logically some of that 3 million would have gone to strategic reserves in the past and would not affect economic productivity anyway. Oil prices don't seem manipulated once you consider these.

Iran is burning the candle at both ends by failing to enforce an actual oil blockade and wasting time with non-entity Oman, while under a total naval blockade and getting bombed every other day.

 

[ShapurII]

If they are truly determined to use Ukraine against Iran, they can have Ukraine escalate by hitting Iranian ground targets after an Iranian retaliation. Or even without an Iranian retaliation. Israel can train and supply a couple of Ukrainian battalions dedicated to lobbing a couple of projectiles at Iran every week. That cycle will reduce pressure on Israel and sap Iranian missile inventory.

I remember the Ukrainian plane. It seemed like electronic warfare but Salami apologized. Probably under pressure from Zarif. Ukraine is like a rabid dog undeterred by a kick to the face. It is the rabies that is the driver not the dog. I don't put anything past them at this point.

Are you sure about that? Because the way I see it, the Ukraine is in no shape to fire cruise missiles at a country 3,000 km away from them regularly.

They hardly have enough long range ballistic missiles to target Iran. They have cruise missiles, but how many can reach Iran and how long can they sustain that when they're already fighting Russia?

The Ukraine is barely holding the Russians off. Today they lost some 70 km² of their territory.

Iran's lack of deterrence even against a war-torn shithole like the Ukraine will eventually lead to much more devastating problems for us in the not too distant future.

 

[ShapurII]

5 million barrels a day pass through the Omani corridor.
4+ million barrels/day through Yanbu/Suez.
1.8 million from Fujairah.
5 million barrel/day reduction in purchases by Chin. China can sustain that almost indefinitely with their massive reserves.
Iran is apparently selling some oil from tankers parked near China.

All the above add up to 17-18 million barrels a day.

20-21 million barrels a day passed through the Strait of Hormuz before the war.

That is only about a 3 million barrel reduction in supply. The world and US strategic reserves can carry this forward for a very long time. Oil prices don't seem heavily manipulated once you consider this.

Iran is burning the candle at both ends by failing to enforce an actual oil blockade and wasting time with non-entity Oman, while under a total naval blockade and getting bombed every other day.

Iran has lost this war, it is beyond clear at this point that the war is lost and signing our surrender is imminent. Another "Jaam-e Zahr" is awaiting Iran.

All because the incompetent fools in the Islamic Republic couldn't fight the US for 60 days straight, after 47 years of chanting Marg bar Amrika and Marg bar Esraeel.

And this is just the beginning. Even after signing our surrender, the US won't leave alone Iran. Mark my words.

Iran is going to give up on its control on the Strait of Hormuz, we will be forced to allow IAEA inspections again, eventually hand over our enriched uranium, and probably even pay compensation to Kuwait, Bahrain, the Emirates and other regional countries for years for attacking them.

 

[Falcon29]

Now 84,5 a barrel.

76

But that's a good sign of an imminent 60+ day ceasefire to negotiate other issues

 

[Falcon29]

Yeah it's not true. US sends Israel and Ukraine each month what they've used in the entire war with Iran

But it means an agreement is going to happen and a larger catastrophe has been averted

 

[GWXP]

Must Watch:

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[Flotilla]

5 million barrels a day pass through the Omani corridor.
4+ million barrels/day through Yanbu/Suez.
1.8 million from Fujairah.
5 million barrel/day reduction in purchases by Chin. China can sustain that almost indefinitely with their massive reserves.
Iran is apparently selling some oil from tankers parked near China.

All the above add up to 17-18 million barrels a day.

20-21 million barrels a day passed through the Strait of Hormuz before the war.

That is only about a 3 million barrel reduction in supply. The world and US strategic reserves can carry this forward for a very long time.

Logically some of that 3 million would have gone to strategic reserves in the past and would not affect economic productivity anyway. Oil prices don't seem manipulated once you consider these.

Iran is burning the candle at both ends by failing to enforce an actual oil blockade and wasting time with non-entity Oman, while under a total naval blockade and getting bombed every other day.

For sure.
And the price it is the same.
Nobody pays the insurances costs. The E3 flights and the coverage of probably half of dozen fighters and helicopters.
All this doesn´t have any impact in the oil price.
Of course.

 

[kobra]

 

[KAL-EL]

Iran can't touch a inch of USA mainland.

But Iran has whole intention to sink USA warships, they didnt do it because they can't, but if someday USA runs out of weapons in warships near to Iran, it could happen.

American warships sinking near to Iran coast, it's a scenario that reminds Pearl Harbor, and Pearl Harbor was the justification to the only one real use of nukes.

I wasn't referring to Iran specifically. I meant in general. Which is why I said any country.

 

[unconventional]

Unfortunately, the signs are looking pretty ominous for Iran. I don’t think Iran can be militarily defeated by the US/Israel. Any overthrow of the regime will have to come from within Iran.

But it also seems like the US/Israel will go to any lengths to overthrow the Iranian regime.

Part of their playbook seems to be to use on-off military operations to enforce a strangling economic blockade of Iran. Disenfranchise Iran from its neighbors, basically not have anyone deal with Iran.

After the whole Spain’s Ceuta debacle, looking at how most of the EU was willing to throw them under the bus, and China not stepping up to confront the US’s hegemony in the region (in light of the Iran war); I am apprehensive that Iran will be left isolated.

An isolated Iran will be an Iran that is strangulated economically, and that is the biggest danger for Iran.

Iran can cause its neighbors and even Europe, and other parts of Asia significant damage economically; but if the pain does not get transferred to Israel or the US adequately, I am afraid the US/Israel will wait till Iran gets economically choked. They don’t care about the rest of the world, Spain is a good example.

And by pain to the US, I do not mean pain to the Trump presidency. It seems clear that this is clearly bigger than Trump’s presidency. Pain to the US would mean the USD being seriously threatened as the world’s reserve currency, or a serious threat to US’s hegemony in the region; or a serious degradation to the US militarily.

 

[Desert]

Iran has lost this war, it is beyond clear at this point that the war is lost and signing our surrender is imminent. Another "Jaam-e Zahr" is awaiting Iran.

All because the incompetent fools in the Islamic Republic couldn't fight the US for 60 days straight, after 47 years of chanting Marg bar Amrika and Marg bar Esraeel.

And this is just the beginning. Even after signing our surrender, the US won't leave alone Iran. Mark my words.

Iran is going to give up on its control on the Strait of Hormuz, we will be forced to allow IAEA inspections again, eventually hand over our enriched uranium, and probably even pay compensation to Kuwait, Bahrain, the Emirates and other regional countries for years for attacking them.

Lol wow I guess i'm not that pessimistic , i found someone who is on another level

 

[BHAN85]

Happens

it could be a cyberattack to Internet of Things industrial elements.



The only safe network from the state level western attackers, it's the offline airgapped network.

And how many industries implement that kind of paranoid security? No one.

It's cheaper and easier to have everything connected, wireless sensors, and so on.