Melaca strait China's vulnerability? Is it true or Myth?

If you ever have a time then please carefully watch China map and the island chain in front of it.... not to mention in spite of being such a gigantic country they have only single coast line where they are bottle necked by US and allies..... starting from the own coast till Indian ocean they have huge huge challenges and this is the reason they are so desperate for CPEC or BRI and pouring billions....

You just dismiss everything just out of the hate of India but let me assure you if Pakistan was staunchest western ally and India was China ally then you would have agreed with me.....

See why China is a prisoner of her own Geography....


Well, one of us did geography at school and one of us also realises that China has a 2,615 mile border with a country that produces 12% of the world's oil and the world's second largest producer of gas.

India is landlocked between Bangladesh, Pakistan and China.

Helps when you get an education.
 
Well, one of us did geography at school and one of us also realises that China has a 2,615 mile border with a country that produces 12% of the world's oil and the world's second largest producer of gas.

India is landlocked between Bangladesh, Pakistan and China.

Helps when you get an education.
Now I'm sure the school where you leant geography must not be good....
Now coming back to India a 3 coastlines country with large open water bodies and 100s of islands in the form of Andaman and nicobar lakshdweep is landlocked country?? And by whom Pakistan and Bangladesh?? Does India need Pakistan and Bangladesh approval to access Arabian sea, Indian Ocean or Bob???
Even during wartime we won't need your approval....
But yes your boss China certainly needs our approval at malacca strait during wartime....
 
Now I'm sure the school where you leant geography must not be good....
Now coming back to India a 3 coastlines country with large open water bodies and 100s of islands in the form of Andaman and nicobar lakshdweep is landlocked country?? And by whom Pakistan and Bangladesh?? Does India need Pakistan and Bangladesh approval to access Arabian sea, Indian Ocean or Bob???
Even during wartime we won't need your approval....
But yes your boss China certainly needs our approval at malacca strait during wartime....

You are now changing the subject. How is China by any definition landlocked?

it is literally part of the greater Asian landmass with direct land access to Central Asia, Europe and South Asia.

In war China via Russia and Pakistan can transport as much rescources as it wants. India is totally dependent on sea trade.
 
Now I'm sure the school where you leant geography must not be good....
Now coming back to India a 3 coastlines country with large open water bodies and 100s of islands in the form of Andaman and nicobar lakshdweep is landlocked country?? And by whom Pakistan and Bangladesh?? Does India need Pakistan and Bangladesh approval to access Arabian sea, Indian Ocean or Bob???
Even during wartime we won't need your approval....
But yes your boss China certainly needs our approval at malacca strait during wartime....
In case of war with Pakistan even your subs can't enter the Arabian sea , forget about any kind of ships entering the gulf .
 
You are now changing the subject. How is China by any definition landlocked?

it is literally part of the greater Asian landmass with direct land access to Central Asia, Europe and South Asia.

In war China via Russia and Pakistan can transport as much rescources as it wants. India is totally dependent on sea trade.


Your last point is pertinent.

A naval blockade would bring India to its knees as it has too high a population for the resources within its land mass and anyway cannot make much stuff in-house.
 
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Keep building ships.... real maritime countries like USA, UK, India, Australia will always enjoy more joy on the waves....
India, lol, you don't even have a decent port, maritime countries, lol ,what a joke.

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The clowns do not realise, 11 PN AIP subs combined with 20 off Chinese SSKs, SSNs would occupy the IN so much (especially considering it's low modern sub numbers) that no IN ship could leave port, and you would need less then a quarter of PLAN's sub to do this
 

Top maritime countries revealed

China takes the top spot in a new ranking of the leading maritime nations globally.

By Kate Jones,

China, including Hong Kong, is the world’s top maritime nation according to a new report from DNV GL and Menon Economics.

The Asian superpower comes top for both ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ — two of the four main pillars in the study, the other two being ‘Maritime Finance & Law’ and ‘Maritime Technology’. The US follows behind in second place overall, with Japan coming third overall and Germany, Norway and South Korea tied in fourth place. Greece comes seventh overall, the UK comes eighth, Singapore ninth and Denmark 13th.

The document’s authors say that China’s particularly-robust position within ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ mirrors “its position as a global manufacturing hub” Photo: hbieser/Pixabay/CC0 Creative Commons
Diving into detail

Previously, Menon Economics and DNV GL had examined the competitiveness and performance of maritime cities, and the companies plan to continue publishing reports ranking the world’s top maritime capitals. However, according to the authors of this new report, entitled The Leading Maritime Nations of the World 2018, this year the two companies chose to focus on the maritime industries of entire countries for two main reasons.

“Firstly, many countries have strong local clusters that are mutually dependent,” the study explains. “In Norway for example, the technological centre is in Trondheim, the deep-sea centre in Bergen, the offshore centre in Ålesund and the finance centre in Oslo. The US has various local centres spread out across the country, with New York being a home to ship finance and law, Houston … an offshore capital, a shipping hub in Seattle/Tacoma and the major portion of the ports and logistics activities centred around the LA/Long Beach area. Secondly, the political and institutional framework is mainly on the national, not on the city, level.”
The presence of several small, high income economies among the top 10 leading maritime nations indicates the importance of policy measures and public institutions
Thirty countries were included in the study, with Hong Kong included within China in the report. According to Menon Economics and DNV GL, all have robust positions as maritime nations across different factors to varying degrees. Each country was ranked according to size and magnitude on all of the four main document pillars and sub-groups within these pillars. The Shipping pillar was given greater weight in the calculations due to it “being the main engine of the entire maritime industry”.

Key players

The document’s authors say that China’s particularly robust position within ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ mirrors “its position as a global manufacturing hub”. They note that Singapore manages to get a top 10 position “as a small and young nation” and that “Norway and South Korea’s top rankings reveal that smaller, high income countries that place significant investment in research and development, focusing on technology, innovation and engineering capabilities for the entire marine shipbuilding ecosystem, could propel themselves into the top five”. The ranking of Greece, they claim, “shows that even smaller countries can still have significant influence and importance on a global scale”, with the nation in seventh position “due to its shipping business acumen and traditions”.

The US emerges top within the ‘Maritime Finance & Law’ pillar. The nation is followed, in order, by Norway, the UK, China and Japan. Within ‘Shipping’, Greece comes second after China (which is in the top spot), Japan comes third and the US comes fourth, with Germany ranked fifth. Meanwhile, as regards ‘Ports & Logistics’, the US comes second after China, while Singapore, the UAE and Germany come third, fourth and fifth respectively. Finally, within the ‘Maritime Technology’ category, South Korea comes first. Japan comes second, China comes third and Germany comes fourth. Fifth place goes to the US.

Commenting on the overall findings, the authors say: “The results are an indication of the overall development in a country over several decades, and to some extent mirror the economic growth and size of a nation’s economy. The presence of several small, high income economies among the top 10 leading maritime nations indicates the importance of policy measures and public institutions, including high investment in research and development, innovation and tertiary education focusing on the maritime sector at a national level. In our view, the leading position of these smaller nations is the most interesting finding of the study, considering that it would be natural to expect large, developed nations to be ranked at the top in correlation with the size of their national economy.” The authors also say that they perceive a strong correlation between a country’s success and GDP contribution, job generation and profits, noting that as more individuals are employed, more profits are created, organically generating other benefits for a country.

The authors also discuss the difference between the results of the new study and those of The Leading Maritime Capitals of the World 2017. They give the example of Singapore, which comes first overall in the latter and ninth in the former. The main reason for the difference, they claim, is Singapore’s status as a city-state — China and the US, on the other hand, are economic superpowers with a number of maritime centres. However, the authors also say that removing the ‘Attractiveness & Competitiveness’ area as a standalone pillar is another factor making the maritime nations report ranking different from that of the maritime capitals study — Singapore would have ranked higher had it been included standalone in the maritime nations ranking.

“Hence, the two benchmarks tell different stories — both true and important, but different,” the authors conclude.

 

Top maritime countries revealed

China takes the top spot in a new ranking of the leading maritime nations globally.

By Kate Jones,

China, including Hong Kong, is the world’s top maritime nation according to a new report from DNV GL and Menon Economics.

The Asian superpower comes top for both ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ — two of the four main pillars in the study, the other two being ‘Maritime Finance & Law’ and ‘Maritime Technology’. The US follows behind in second place overall, with Japan coming third overall and Germany, Norway and South Korea tied in fourth place. Greece comes seventh overall, the UK comes eighth, Singapore ninth and Denmark 13th.

The document’s authors say that China’s particularly-robust position within ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ mirrors “its position as a global manufacturing hub” Photo: hbieser/Pixabay/CC0 Creative Commons
Diving into detail

Previously, Menon Economics and DNV GL had examined the competitiveness and performance of maritime cities, and the companies plan to continue publishing reports ranking the world’s top maritime capitals. However, according to the authors of this new report, entitled The Leading Maritime Nations of the World 2018, this year the two companies chose to focus on the maritime industries of entire countries for two main reasons.

“Firstly, many countries have strong local clusters that are mutually dependent,” the study explains. “In Norway for example, the technological centre is in Trondheim, the deep-sea centre in Bergen, the offshore centre in Ålesund and the finance centre in Oslo. The US has various local centres spread out across the country, with New York being a home to ship finance and law, Houston … an offshore capital, a shipping hub in Seattle/Tacoma and the major portion of the ports and logistics activities centred around the LA/Long Beach area. Secondly, the political and institutional framework is mainly on the national, not on the city, level.”
The presence of several small, high income economies among the top 10 leading maritime nations indicates the importance of policy measures and public institutions
Thirty countries were included in the study, with Hong Kong included within China in the report. According to Menon Economics and DNV GL, all have robust positions as maritime nations across different factors to varying degrees. Each country was ranked according to size and magnitude on all of the four main document pillars and sub-groups within these pillars. The Shipping pillar was given greater weight in the calculations due to it “being the main engine of the entire maritime industry”.

Key players

The document’s authors say that China’s particularly robust position within ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ mirrors “its position as a global manufacturing hub”. They note that Singapore manages to get a top 10 position “as a small and young nation” and that “Norway and South Korea’s top rankings reveal that smaller, high income countries that place significant investment in research and development, focusing on technology, innovation and engineering capabilities for the entire marine shipbuilding ecosystem, could propel themselves into the top five”. The ranking of Greece, they claim, “shows that even smaller countries can still have significant influence and importance on a global scale”, with the nation in seventh position “due to its shipping business acumen and traditions”.

The US emerges top within the ‘Maritime Finance & Law’ pillar. The nation is followed, in order, by Norway, the UK, China and Japan. Within ‘Shipping’, Greece comes second after China (which is in the top spot), Japan comes third and the US comes fourth, with Germany ranked fifth. Meanwhile, as regards ‘Ports & Logistics’, the US comes second after China, while Singapore, the UAE and Germany come third, fourth and fifth respectively. Finally, within the ‘Maritime Technology’ category, South Korea comes first. Japan comes second, China comes third and Germany comes fourth. Fifth place goes to the US.

Commenting on the overall findings, the authors say: “The results are an indication of the overall development in a country over several decades, and to some extent mirror the economic growth and size of a nation’s economy. The presence of several small, high income economies among the top 10 leading maritime nations indicates the importance of policy measures and public institutions, including high investment in research and development, innovation and tertiary education focusing on the maritime sector at a national level. In our view, the leading position of these smaller nations is the most interesting finding of the study, considering that it would be natural to expect large, developed nations to be ranked at the top in correlation with the size of their national economy.” The authors also say that they perceive a strong correlation between a country’s success and GDP contribution, job generation and profits, noting that as more individuals are employed, more profits are created, organically generating other benefits for a country.

The authors also discuss the difference between the results of the new study and those of The Leading Maritime Capitals of the World 2017. They give the example of Singapore, which comes first overall in the latter and ninth in the former. The main reason for the difference, they claim, is Singapore’s status as a city-state — China and the US, on the other hand, are economic superpowers with a number of maritime centres. However, the authors also say that removing the ‘Attractiveness & Competitiveness’ area as a standalone pillar is another factor making the maritime nations report ranking different from that of the maritime capitals study — Singapore would have ranked higher had it been included standalone in the maritime nations ranking.

“Hence, the two benchmarks tell different stories — both true and important, but different,” the authors conclude.

Why no "true maritime power" India in this gloal maritime power list?
 
The clowns do not realise, 11 PN AIP subs combined with 20 off Chinese SSKs, SSNs would occupy the IN so much (especially considering it's low modern sub numbers) that no IN ship could leave port, and you would need less then a quarter of PLAN's sub to do this
There's this OSINT buzz on Twitter that one of Pakistan's Hangor/Type 039A subs might've taken a hit and is now chilling at a Chinese dockyard. Given the state of those subs, it doesn't look like Pakistan will be getting them anytime soon. With their French subs practically out of spares, the Pakistan Navy's gonna be high and dry, especially when their numero uno rival, the Indian Navy, is getting 67 new warships. Most of these warships are getting equipped with active towed array sonar, variable depth sonar, underwater drones, and installing SOSUS in the open seas. They're also working on AI algorithms and adding aerial assets like the MH60R Romeo, MQ-9 Sea Guardian, and P8i. The future’s looking pretty grim for Pakistan, especially with China busy in their own waters, tangling with the USN, Japanese Navy, and other big players. They can't exactly swoop in to save their GFF all the way from the South China Sea to the Arabian Sea. Looks like a bigger repeat of the 1971 naval smackdown is on the horizon, especially with those naval anti-ship/LA missile batteries set up by WNC.
 
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The clowns do not realise, 11 PN AIP subs combined with 20 off Chinese SSKs, SSNs would occupy the IN so much (especially considering it's low modern sub numbers) that no IN ship could leave port, and you would need less then a quarter of PLAN's sub to do this
Lol better worry about PN submarines hiding for the cover against P8s and Romeos....
 

Top maritime countries revealed

China takes the top spot in a new ranking of the leading maritime nations globally.

By Kate Jones,

China, including Hong Kong, is the world’s top maritime nation according to a new report from DNV GL and Menon Economics.

The Asian superpower comes top for both ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ — two of the four main pillars in the study, the other two being ‘Maritime Finance & Law’ and ‘Maritime Technology’. The US follows behind in second place overall, with Japan coming third overall and Germany, Norway and South Korea tied in fourth place. Greece comes seventh overall, the UK comes eighth, Singapore ninth and Denmark 13th.

The document’s authors say that China’s particularly-robust position within ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ mirrors “its position as a global manufacturing hub” Photo: hbieser/Pixabay/CC0 Creative Commons
Diving into detail

Previously, Menon Economics and DNV GL had examined the competitiveness and performance of maritime cities, and the companies plan to continue publishing reports ranking the world’s top maritime capitals. However, according to the authors of this new report, entitled The Leading Maritime Nations of the World 2018, this year the two companies chose to focus on the maritime industries of entire countries for two main reasons.

“Firstly, many countries have strong local clusters that are mutually dependent,” the study explains. “In Norway for example, the technological centre is in Trondheim, the deep-sea centre in Bergen, the offshore centre in Ålesund and the finance centre in Oslo. The US has various local centres spread out across the country, with New York being a home to ship finance and law, Houston … an offshore capital, a shipping hub in Seattle/Tacoma and the major portion of the ports and logistics activities centred around the LA/Long Beach area. Secondly, the political and institutional framework is mainly on the national, not on the city, level.”
The presence of several small, high income economies among the top 10 leading maritime nations indicates the importance of policy measures and public institutions
Thirty countries were included in the study, with Hong Kong included within China in the report. According to Menon Economics and DNV GL, all have robust positions as maritime nations across different factors to varying degrees. Each country was ranked according to size and magnitude on all of the four main document pillars and sub-groups within these pillars. The Shipping pillar was given greater weight in the calculations due to it “being the main engine of the entire maritime industry”.

Key players

The document’s authors say that China’s particularly robust position within ‘Shipping’ and ‘Ports & Logistics’ mirrors “its position as a global manufacturing hub”. They note that Singapore manages to get a top 10 position “as a small and young nation” and that “Norway and South Korea’s top rankings reveal that smaller, high income countries that place significant investment in research and development, focusing on technology, innovation and engineering capabilities for the entire marine shipbuilding ecosystem, could propel themselves into the top five”. The ranking of Greece, they claim, “shows that even smaller countries can still have significant influence and importance on a global scale”, with the nation in seventh position “due to its shipping business acumen and traditions”.

The US emerges top within the ‘Maritime Finance & Law’ pillar. The nation is followed, in order, by Norway, the UK, China and Japan. Within ‘Shipping’, Greece comes second after China (which is in the top spot), Japan comes third and the US comes fourth, with Germany ranked fifth. Meanwhile, as regards ‘Ports & Logistics’, the US comes second after China, while Singapore, the UAE and Germany come third, fourth and fifth respectively. Finally, within the ‘Maritime Technology’ category, South Korea comes first. Japan comes second, China comes third and Germany comes fourth. Fifth place goes to the US.

Commenting on the overall findings, the authors say: “The results are an indication of the overall development in a country over several decades, and to some extent mirror the economic growth and size of a nation’s economy. The presence of several small, high income economies among the top 10 leading maritime nations indicates the importance of policy measures and public institutions, including high investment in research and development, innovation and tertiary education focusing on the maritime sector at a national level. In our view, the leading position of these smaller nations is the most interesting finding of the study, considering that it would be natural to expect large, developed nations to be ranked at the top in correlation with the size of their national economy.” The authors also say that they perceive a strong correlation between a country’s success and GDP contribution, job generation and profits, noting that as more individuals are employed, more profits are created, organically generating other benefits for a country.

The authors also discuss the difference between the results of the new study and those of The Leading Maritime Capitals of the World 2017. They give the example of Singapore, which comes first overall in the latter and ninth in the former. The main reason for the difference, they claim, is Singapore’s status as a city-state — China and the US, on the other hand, are economic superpowers with a number of maritime centres. However, the authors also say that removing the ‘Attractiveness & Competitiveness’ area as a standalone pillar is another factor making the maritime nations report ranking different from that of the maritime capitals study — Singapore would have ranked higher had it been included standalone in the maritime nations ranking.

“Hence, the two benchmarks tell different stories — both true and important, but different,” the authors conclude.

City picture is beautiful unfortunately its like landlocked Baku city......
 

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