Yommie
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That was never the only objective, I’ve been here since the first thread on the previous forum. Stop lying to yourselfRussias states aims was freedom for the Russian speaking Donbass, that is now almost complete
Anything else is a security question and if it goes to negotiations, for peace Russia will keep the liberated land and demand that Ukraine remain a neutral buffer state between Russia and NATO
So again, when can Russia declare victory?The guy keeps saying "Russia has strategically lost this war" since years.
Now whenever I see this phrase it reminds me of Windows XP cursor bug where it kept repeating itself.
That was never the only objective, I’ve been here since the first thread on the previous forum. Stop lying to yourself
The only thing Russia has guaranteed with this war is Ukraine WILL become a member of NATO
Cope harder
The problem is with your understanding.So again, when can Russia declare victory?
If you can’t even answer that it’s obvious Russia doesn't have a plan.
Case in point I’ve heard noting but Russia will win the war by fall, Russia will win the war by spring ‘22…’23….fall of ‘24 is coming. Maybe push that timeline back to ‘26?
Sad this thread is an echo chamber of stupidity and lack of critical thinking.
Does the mod who banned me for 24 hrs care to explain or did I hurt their feelings?
Look I'm not Russian, so i don't particularly care THAT MUCH about Russia or any of its aims, except that the current world order is a crock of shit that is damaging the world for the interests of a handful of western Nations and Jews
So Russia is fighting the good fight as it's taking on this western order
So let's clarify, Russia's STATED aim was the protection of the Russian speaking population in the east of Ukraine
Russia has taken the Crimea
It will take the Donbass soon enough
Ergo all stated aims of Russia will be complete
Now beyond that, taking all of Ukraine was never a aim of Russia, not admitted to anyway, any land taken outside of the Donbass was supposed to be a tool to be used in negotiations
But I won't be surprised if Russia now to protect itself and it's future interests
Takes the Donbass, and then pushes for Odessa to completely cut off the black sea for Ukraine and pushes west to take vital known mineral sites in Ukraine
The Russians don't care how many dead or how much equip they use up, it can be rebuilt, they are fighting for their strategic future
In negotiations Ukraine will be made into a buffer state or continue to face war
I tried to explain same thing to these trolls a few times but they are too busy to cope and their internal shock won't let them understand.Look I'm not Russian, so i don't particularly care THAT MUCH about Russia or any of its aims, except that the current world order is a crock of shit that is damaging the world for the interests of a handful of western Nations and Jews
So Russia is fighting the good fight as it's taking on this western order
So let's clarify, Russia's STATED aim was the protection of the Russian speaking population in the east of Ukraine
Russia has taken the Crimea
It will take the Donbass soon enough
Ergo all stated aims of Russia will be complete
Now beyond that, taking all of Ukraine was never a aim of Russia, not admitted to anyway, any land taken outside of the Donbass was supposed to be a tool to be used in negotiations
But I won't be surprised if Russia now to protect itself and it's future interests
Takes the Donbass, and then pushes for Odessa to completely cut off the black sea for Ukraine and pushes west to take vital known mineral sites in Ukraine
The Russians don't care how many dead or how much equip they use up, it can be rebuilt, they are fighting for their strategic future
In negotiations Ukraine will be made into a buffer state or continue to face war