Why is there such a big difference The ISS is crowded, but the Chinese Tiangong space station is like an Apple store

[onlinpunit]

China best . Always best..

 

[Beijingwalker]

You guys have wasted energy making your Tianzhou spacecraft not landable.
Just shortsightness on your part...making us wonder if there really is any serious experiments going on up there.

lol, You mean China should not do any space programs after being banned by Nasa? I wonder where would you guys go after ISS retires, please don't come to us and beg for partnership.

 

[hyperman]

But there are only two space stations in the world, it's why people just can't help but to compare them. Hopefully we can have a third space station, but it seems unlikely, ISS had long passed its expiry date and soon will retire. China's space station will soon be the only space station in the world.

i get you want to post China stuff, but you need to be more objective and truthful. That space station is decades old, and ready for retirement, plus is much much bigger with far more research and experimentation going on b/c of the amount of modules. Secondly, in all likelyhood it will not retire until a replacement station is agreed to and built. It will probably be without Russian modules, but maybe the Indians replace them.

If China wanted to be smart, what they should do is build a consensus for a BRICS type space station. With India, Russia, Iran, UAE, and other states that are pursuing space programs that are outside of the western sphere or weren't invited.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

lol, You mean China should not do any space programs after being banned by Nasa? I wonder where would you guys go after ISS retires, please don't come to us and beg for partnership.

You can...but again this shows China must need somebody holding their hand to tell them it would probably be a good idea to make your cargo spacecraft able to do two-way trips instead of burning up on re-entry. Think of all the things you could have sent back by now.

 

[Beijingwalker]

You can...but again this shows China must need somebody holding their hand to tell them it would probably be a good idea to make your cargo spacecraft able to do two-way trips instead of burning up on re-entry. Think of all the things you could have sent back by now.

lol, we need US bans more, please issue more bans.

 

[Beijingwalker]

If China wanted to be smart, what they should do is build a consensus for a BRICS type space station. With India, Russia, Iran, UAE, and other states that are pursuing space programs that are outside of the western sphere or weren't invited.

Working with foreingers will also slow us down, check out aborted CR929 project, no foreign countries can keep up with our speed.

 

[Oscar]

But there are only two space stations in the world, it's why people just can't help but to compare them. Hopefully we can have a third space station, but it seems unlikely, ISS had long passed its expiry date and soon will retire. China's space station will soon be the only space station in the world.

All valid points - but it is a useless comparison nonetheless because they aren’t equivalent in many areas whatsoever.
The ISS began decades before China even thought of a space station and was based on 80s design, upgraded to 90s and had computing and network components from that age all the way to the latest stuff. It’s gone through MANY MANY more flight hours than the Chinese station and MANY MANy more upgrades. It accommodates technological aspects and ideas from multiple nations and has had visitors from all around the world and helps people from all around the world from its experiments,

By contrast - The Chinese stations while looking more modern because it is built only recently in relation is focused on Chinese usages and inputs while only benefits and provides value to China for now.

Simply no logical reason to compare them at all

 

[VersusChristi]

Why is there such a big difference The ISS is crowded, but the Chinese Tiangong space station is like an Apple store​

Give it 30 years and all the different countries docking and then we will talk. Its ... the "I" in the ISS.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Give it 30 years and all the different countries docking and then we will talk. Its ... the "I" in the ISS.

It'll be more tidy and organized than it is now. The OP video listed many reasons, one is thte ISS belongs to everyone and no one, so no one cares about the tidiness of the station. While Tiangong only belongs to China and Chinese astranauts take good care of it.

 

[VersusChristi]

It'll be more tidy and organized than it is now. The OP video listed many reasons, one is thte ISS belongs to everyone and no one, so no one cares about the tidiness of the station. While Tiangong only belongs to China and Chinese astranauts take good care of it.

As I said, let that time come. And the only way it is going to remain as it is if China does not put it to any use.

When the ISS modules were first launched, basic things like high speed Digital Storage Oscilloscope were infrequent and not as capable as their analog cousins. Give it few decades when possibly new equipments will not even use electricity to communicate. You will then see the rats nest of wires that ISS is right now.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Just shortsightness on your part...making us wonder if there really is any serious experiments going on up there.

Lol, yes, we go up there for just fun and vacations

China grows a plant on the Moon, a first for humankind

China's Chang'e 4 biosphere experiment marks a first for humankind.

bigthink.com

World's first rice seeds harvested in orbit onboard China Space Station return to Earth - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

lol, we need US bans more, please issue more bans.

Well for one you are stuck using a modified old Russian APAS docking system instead of the modern IDSS


This makes autonomous docking so easy the ISS astronauts don't even have to walk away from their work.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Well for one you are stuck using a modified old Russian APAS docking system instead of the modern IDSS

China's docking system is fast, accurate with 100% success rate, you are welcome to badmouth it. and for one, whatever we use is for our own space station, which you don't have.

When one day you had your own space station, come back to talk.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China's docking system is fast, accurate with 100% success rate, you are welcome to badmouth it. and for one, whatever we use is for our own space station, which you don't have.

When one day you had your own space station, come back to talk.

Always lifting tech from others instead of spending money on your own R&D. That's a reason you were banned.

Chinese Docking Mechanism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Chinese Docking Mechanism is a spacecraft docking mechanism based on the Androgynous Peripheral Attach System (APAS).

Androgynous Peripheral Attach System - Wikipedia

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The terms Androgynous Peripheral Attach System (APAS), Androgynous Peripheral Assembly System (APAS) and Androgynous Peripheral Docking System (APDS)[1][2] are used interchangeably to describe a Russian family of spacecraft docking mechanisms, and are also sometimes used as generic names for any docking system in that family. A system similar to APAS-89/95 is used by the Chinese Shenzhou spacecraft

 

[Beijingwalker]

Always lifting tech from others..

Chinese Docking Mechanism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So if works perfectly, what's wrong? besides, everyone can write on wikipedia, many info from wiki are BS. and when could you have your own space station?