Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

[Antonius123]

What are you blabbering on about this time you are all over the place.

Wondering why the Arabs were expected to negotiate giving up their land because someone else wanted it. I know I wouldn't give up half my home because someone claimed they wanted it because their book said so.

Just be realistic, if you want war then expect what the war will bring to you. If you want to genocide jews because according to you they occupy your land then don't complain if they genocide you back.

Before waging war, make sure in the first place that your military power is capable to defend your people and defeat your enemy.

What you are claiming now might be no longer your house but somebody else houses because their ancestors have purchased legally from your ancestors.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1739488707311456529

 

[Antonius123]

They are here false-flagging. But also many of them are unable to defend the indefensible Holocaust that's being executing by their country in Gaza. No one is preventing them from contributing.


Source?

Source?

Islamist militant faction Hamas used the phrase in its 2017 charter. The slogan's use by such Palestinian militant groups has led critics to argue that the slogan implicitly advocates for the dismantling of Israel, and a call for the removal or extermination of the Jewish population.[13]

From the river to the sea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is the true genocidal intention.

 

[Falcon29]

Just be realistic, if you want war then expect what the war will bring to you. If you want to genocide jews because according to you they occupy your land then don't complain if they genocide you back.

Why are you lying? This is the stated goal/reasons Hamas gave for the operation, and it doesn't include committing genocide against Jews. You have nothing and simply are now resorting to justifying the Gaza genocide and holocaust by projecting this aim/intent/execution unto Israel's enemies.

Here is the goal/reasons Hamas gave:
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The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and its repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque.
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Day 4 of Operation " Tofan Al-Aqsa" | Palm Strategic Initiatives Centre

The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and

palmstrategic.org

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Islamist militant faction Hamas used the phrase in its 2017 charter. The slogan's use by such Palestinian militant groups has led critics to argue that the slogan implicitly advocates for the dismantling of Israel, and a call for the removal or extermination of the Jewish population.[13]

From the river to the sea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regime change and transfer of security control is not genocide. Next.

 

[Antonius123]

Why are you lying? This is the stated goal/reasons Hamas gave for the operation, and it doesn't include committing genocide against Jews. You have nothing and simply are now resorting to justifying the Gaza genocide and holocaust by projecting this aim/intent/execution unto Israel's enemies.

Here is the goal/reasons Hamas gave:
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The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and its repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque.
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Day 4 of Operation " Tofan Al-Aqsa" | Palm Strategic Initiatives Centre

The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and

palmstrategic.org

Regime change and transfer of security control is not genocide. Next.

Who is lying here?

The true genocidal intention is blatantly stated here:

1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and here:

From the river to the sea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Falcon29]

Who is lying here?

The true genocidal intention is blatantly stated here:

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1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and here:

From the river to the sea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Stop evading. You said Hamas's stated objective was to commit genocide against the Jews against Israel. Which is a lie. And once again, regime change and transfer of security control is not genocide. Now let's get back to your lie:

Why are you lying? This is the stated goal/reasons Hamas gave for the operation, and it doesn't include committing genocide against Jews. You have nothing and simply are now resorting to justifying the Gaza genocide and holocaust by projecting this aim/intent/execution unto Israel's enemies.

Here is the goal/reasons Hamas gave:
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The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and its repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque.
..
..

Day 4 of Operation " Tofan Al-Aqsa" | Palm Strategic Initiatives Centre

The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and

palmstrategic.org

 

[KingQamaR]

Just be realistic, if you want war then expect what the war will bring to you. If you want to genocide jews because according to you they occupy your land then don't complain if they genocide you back.

Before waging war, make sure in the first place that your military power is capable to defend your people and defeat your enemy.

What you are claiming now might be no longer your house but somebody else houses because their ancestors have purchased legally from your ancestors.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Gotta love how belligerent and vicious you becomes whenever confronted with uncomfortable truths.

 

[Falcon29]

Who is lying here?

The true genocidal intention is blatantly stated here:

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1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and here:

From the river to the sea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now here's what the former Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court says about genocide:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730693418492321945

Now here's what the former Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court says about genocide:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730693418492321945

And here's what a Israeli professor has to say about genocide:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1735206153229946889

 

[Antonius123]

Now here's what the former Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court says about genocide:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730693418492321945

Luis Moreno Ocampo[nb 1] (born 4 June 1952)[1] is an Argentine lawyer who served as the first Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) from 2003 to 2012.

So he used to be a PROSECUTOR of ICC, no wonder.

Let's be patient and wait till UN has officially released resolution about it whether it is genocidal or not.

For the time being, calling this war as genocidal intention is controversial and debatable.

Gotta love how belligerent and vicious you becomes whenever confronted with uncomfortable truths.

Every the truth could be viewed vicious by somebody especially those whom the truth is not in favour for.

 

[KingQamaR]

Luis Moreno Ocampo[nb 1] (born 4 June 1952)[1] is an Argentine lawyer who served as the first Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) from 2003 to 2012.

So he used to be a PROSECUTOR of ICC, no wonder.

Let's be patient and wait till UN has officially released resolution about it whether it is genocidal or not.

For the time being, calling this war as genocidal intention is controversial and debatable.

So hard to support any country that can cause the UN to state something like this.
Three days ago this report came out."
According to a report released Thursday by 23 UN and humanitarian agencies, Gaza's entire 2.2 million population is in a food crisis or worse and 576,600 are at the "catastrophic" starvation level. With supplies to Gaza cut off except for a small trickle, the UN World Food Program has said 90 per cent of the population is regularly going without food for a full day." Merry Christmas. to all true Christians that condemn this slaughter,

 

[Falcon29]

Luis Moreno Ocampo[nb 1] (born 4 June 1952)[1] is an Argentine lawyer who served as the first Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) from 2003 to 2012.

So he used to be a PROSECUTOR of ICC, no wonder.

Let's be patient and wait till UN has officially released resolution about it whether it is genocidal or not.

For the time being, calling this war as genocidal intention is controversial and debatable.

Stop evading. You said Hamas's stated objective was to commit genocide against the Jews against Israel. Which is a lie. And once again, regime change and transfer of security control is not genocide. Now let's get back to your lie:

Why are you lying? This is the stated goal/reasons Hamas gave for the operation, and it doesn't include committing genocide against Jews. You have nothing and simply are now resorting to justifying the Gaza genocide and holocaust by projecting this aim/intent/execution unto Israel's enemies.

Here is the goal/reasons Hamas gave:
..
..
The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and its repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque.
..
..

Day 4 of Operation " Tofan Al-Aqsa" | Palm Strategic Initiatives Centre

The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and

palmstrategic.org

 

[Falcon29]

Luis Moreno Ocampo[nb 1] (born 4 June 1952)[1] is an Argentine lawyer who served as the first Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) from 2003 to 2012.

So he used to be a PROSECUTOR of ICC, no wonder.

No wonder, what? Are you trying to suggest he was removed for incompetence? Do you understand law and criminal prosecution for than the former Chief Prosecutor of the ICC? Seriously? Your arguments are getting more ridiculous. It is very easy for me to deal with you so now you resorted to evasion tactics which I won't allow.

Let's be patient and wait till UN has officially released resolution about it whether it is genocidal or not.

UN says Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank and calls on Israel to withdraw. Do you accept this resolution?

For the time being, calling this war as genocidal intention is controversial and debatable.

If the biggest pro-Israel defender on forum is willing to debate there may be a genocide taking place, then that's very bad for Israel and its supporters.

You still need to retract your lie about Hamas and the Palestinians. I provided Hamas's stated reason/objective of the operation. It wasn't to commit genocide against Jews. Meanwhile, we have dozens of statements by Israeli officials regarding Gaza, which all state clear intent to commit genocide against the Palestinians of Gaza.

 

[Antonius123]

Stop evading. You said Hamas's stated objective was to commit genocide against the Jews against Israel. Which is a lie. And once again, regime change and transfer of security control is not genocide. Now let's get back to your lie:

Why are you lying? This is the stated goal/reasons Hamas gave for the operation, and it doesn't include committing genocide against Jews. You have nothing and simply are now resorting to justifying the Gaza genocide and holocaust by projecting this aim/intent/execution unto Israel's enemies.

Here is the goal/reasons Hamas gave:
..
..
The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and its repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque.
..
..

Day 4 of Operation " Tofan Al-Aqsa" | Palm Strategic Initiatives Centre

The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and

palmstrategic.org

You are evading my evidence.

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How could Hamas intention => "the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[4][5][6 " won't involve genocide of jewish there?

How could the extermination of Israel is not genocidal?

On November 17, 2023, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, announced a policy change, stating that users who use terms like "decolonization" and "from the river to the sea," or similar expressions would be suspended. He claimed these terms were used as euphemisms for extreme violence or genocide.[50]

ADL regional director Jonah Steinberg stated that from the time of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War and thereafter “there was a catchphrase of ‘pushing the Jews into the sea’ and the phrase, ‘from the river to the sea’ echoes that trope in a menacing way.”[76]

 

[Falcon29]

You are evading my evidence.

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How could Hamas intention => "the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[4][5][6 " won't involve genocide of jewish there?

How could the extermination of Israel is not genocidal?

On November 17, 2023, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, announced a policy change, stating that users who use terms like "decolonization" and "from the river to the sea," or similar expressions would be suspended. He claimed these terms were used as euphemisms for extreme violence or genocide.[50]

ADL regional director Jonah Steinberg stated that from the time of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War and thereafter “there was a catchphrase of ‘pushing the Jews into the sea’ and the phrase, ‘from the river to the sea’ echoes that trope in a menacing way.”[76]

Once again, regime change and transfer of security control is not genocide. Regardless of what 'commentators' think. You stated Hamas started a genocidal war against the Jews of Israel and that pro-Palestine folks should not complain if Israel commits a genocide back. But you lied about this. Hamas provided the stated objective/reasons of its military operation against Israel, none of which includes genocide nor intent of genocide:
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The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and its repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Day 4 of Operation " Tofan Al-Aqsa" | Palm Strategic Initiatives Centre

The operation was launched by Mohammad al-Deif the General Commander of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, in response to the Israeli crimes against Palestinians and

palmstrategic.org

 

[Antonius123]

No wonder, what? Are you trying to suggest he was removed for incompetence? Do you understand law and criminal prosecution for than the former Chief Prosecutor of the ICC? Seriously? Your arguments are getting more ridiculous. It is very easy for me to deal with you so now you resorted to evasion tactics which I won't allow.

Nope. I am telling that prosecuting is his expertise and tendency of a prosecutor.

UN says Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank and calls on Israel to withdraw. Do you accept this resolution?

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, adopted in 1967, does call for the withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied during the Six-Day War, including the West Bank. The resolution has been a key reference point in discussions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

However, the specific language used in resolutions and statements can vary, and the nuances of diplomatic language are important to consider. While the UN has expressed concerns about Israel's presence in the West Bank and called for a withdrawal in Resolution 242 and other documents, the exact wording may not always include the term "illegal occupation" in a straightforward manner.

Resolution 242 emphasizes the principle of the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war" and calls for the establishment of secure and recognized boundaries for all states in the region. The interpretation of this resolution, including the question of Israel's withdrawal from the West Bank, has been a subject of debate and negotiation for decades.

If the biggest pro-Israel defender on forum is willing to debate there may be a genocide taking place, then that's very bad for Israel and its supporters.

That means you haven't met the biggest pro israel defender in this forum yet.

You still need to retract your lie about Hamas and the Palestinians. I provided Hamas's stated reason/objective of the operation. It wasn't to commit genocide against Jews. Meanwhile, we have dozens of statements by Israeli officials regarding Gaza, which all state clear intent to commit genocide against the Palestinians of Gaza.

I show you solid rock evidence, even the Hamas charter.