Pak-Afghan Border Skirmishes and Terrorism Watch

[PakAl]

What kind of stupid logic is this?

If they clearly have an opposition to you territorially, and won't settle, then what do you want to do? Beg them, please saar no go India saar?

They are a free country just as you are. Going to India is their prerogative. You need to deal with it. Begging is not how you deal with it. Asslicking is not how you deal with it.

Logic you can't understand, Pakistan current policy is to keep on pressurising the Taliban to deal with the TTP, to continue relations with the pro Pakistan factions inside the Taliban. Pakistan will never hand over Afghanistan to India, you don't understand the consequences. Taliban recognising the duraniline as a line and not a border but they are happy with the line of control as it is, but do want free border movement between the people, this is why Pakistan is hesitant on closing the border, during the 20 years we had bombings on daily bases but still Pakistan hardly closed the border.

If Pakistan wants to end relations with the Taliban then they will support anti taliban forces but will not leave Afghanistan.

 

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

Logic you can't understand, Pakistan current policy is to keep on pressurising the Taliban to deal with the TTP, to continue relations with the pro Pakistan factions inside the Taliban. Pakistan will never hand over Afghanistan to India, you don't understand the consequences. Taliban recognising the duraniline as a line and not a border but they are happy with the line of control as it is, but do want free border movement between the people, this is why Pakistan is hesitant on closing the border, during the 20 years we had bombings on daily bases but still Pakistan hardly closed the border.

If Pakistan wants to end relations with the Taliban then they will support anti taliban forces but will not leave Afghanistan.

Pro-Pakistan factions, man don't make me laugh. There is zero appetite for anything pro-Pakistan amongst Afghans, it's like saying saar we will co-operate with pro-Kashmir faction in India. Its political suicide.

More Afghans are pro-ISIS than pro-Pakistan - and the Taliban hate ISIS.

You are just repeating the same old bogus stuff the establishment used to feed to justify their stupidity which was false. The terrorists fooled Pakistan because of your submissive nature, and now they are drilling you.

 

[PakAl]

Pro-Pakistan factions, man don't make me laugh. There is zero appetite for anything pro-Pakistan amongst Afghans, it's like saying saar we will co-operate with pro-Kashmir faction in India. Its political suicide.

More Afghans are pro-ISIS than pro-Pakistan - and the Taliban hate ISIS.

You are just repeating the same old bogus stuff the establishment used to feed to justify their stupidity which was false. The terrorists fooled Pakistan because of your submissive nature, and now they are drilling you.

So your saying Pakistan lost all their support in Afghanistan and we are screwed, well that's not good news then. What about haqqani network? Hizb Islami? Majority of Afghanis don't like isis, pashtun are only around 47% of Afghanistan, they are in power because of Pakistan continues support, Afghan has 25% Shia hazaras, then Tajikis, Uzbekhs, Turkmen. Isis and ttp is among the Pashtuns, so is the Taliban.

Pakistan will deal with Afghanistan and the Taliban will get in line.

 

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

So your saying Pakistan lost all their support in Afghanistan and we are screwed, well that's not good news then. What about haqqani network? Hizb Islami? Majority of Afghanis don't like isis, pashtun are only around 47% of Afghanistan, they are in power because of Pakistan continues support, Afghan has 25% Shia hazaras, then Tajikis, Uzbekhs, Turkmen. Isis and ttp is among the Pashtuns, so is the Taliban.

There was no support in Afghanistan. This was all military peddled propaganda since the beginning.

Just because there are some militant groups desparate for external support & funding do you think you own them fully once they join government? They do favours here and there.

The IEA is best proof of this. They are Afghan, why would they sell what they believe is their country to their enemy?

As for ethnic minorities that would support Pakistan, that is a completely different issue - Pakistan hasn't explored it yet at all

 

[RescueRanger]

Editorial | Published | March 27, 2024 | Updated about 10 hours ago

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Original Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1823998

A STRING of deadly terrorist attacks over the past few days — with the bombing in KP’s Bisham area on Tuesday being the latest atrocity — drives home the grim point that Pakistan is in the midst of a multidimensional terrorist insurgency.

From the coast and interior of Balochistan to the rugged mountains of the north, violence is occurring with alarming frequency. While most of the victims thus far have been civil and military security personnel, the Bisham attack targeted Chinese nationals. According to officials, at least six people were killed in what has been termed a suicide bombing — five of them Chinese. The foreigners were en route to the Dasu power project from Islamabad when an explosives-laden car smashed into their vehicle.

Meanwhile in Turbat, Baloch separatist militants attacked the PNS Siddique naval base on Monday night. An FC trooper was martyred in the incident. Last week, security forces had thwarted a terrorist attack, also carried out by Baloch militants, on the Gwadar Port Authority Complex.

At the time of writing, no group had claimed responsibility for the Bisham bombing. In the past, both Baloch militants and religiously inspired fighters have targeted Chinese interests in the country. An ISPR statement has identified “certain foreign elements” as being responsible for the latest wave of terrorism, while the Foreign Office has said “enemies of Pakistan-China friendship” are behind the violence.

Certainly, both the Bisham and Gwadar attacks appear to be aimed at derailing the Pakistan-China relationship, specifically the economic aspect of it. The fact that Chinese blood has been spilt makes matters more serious. Several past incidents have also resulted in the death of Chinese nationals, such as the 2021 attack in Kohistan, which is close to Bisham, and the 2022 assault on Karachi University’s Confucius Institute.

Beijing’s reaction has been firm, with the Chinese embassy demanding the Pakistani state take “practical and effective measures” to protect its nationals here. China has come to this country’s aid at difficult times, and invested in Pakistan when few others were willing to. Moreover, at a time when Pakistan is trying to woo foreign investors to bring their dollars here in order to breathe some life into a moribund economy, the country cannot afford terrorists attacking foreign workers.
Security must immediately be beefed up for all foreigners working in the country, particular Chinese nationals. The civilian and military leadership must work closely together to uproot the terrorist infrastructure without delay.

If malign foreign actors are involved in subterfuge, diplomatic channels need to be used to communicate to them that their facilitation of terrorist violence will be exposed before the international community. For the government, the honeymoon is over, and the time has come for decisive action against militancy.
Published in Dawn, March 27th, 2024

 

[newb3e]

incompetence at helm what do you expect!

 

[White Privilege]

Nuke Nangarhar already.....Our delayed response has 'called our bluff' after we established a 'new normal' , i.e. strikes across the border for major terror attacks. Nothing can be bigger than attack on Chinese in Pakistan. We must respond like never before....

 

[RescueRanger]

Nuke Nangarhar already.....Our delayed response has 'called our bluff' after we established a 'new normal' , i.e. strikes across the border for major terror attacks. Nothing can be bigger than attack on Chinese in Pakistan. We must respond like never before....

Whilst using nuclear weapons is out of the question, Pakistan needs to send a robust message beyond the mere bylines.

 

[RescueRanger]

what strong msg? record tali p0rn? this is what your mouaziz idara is good at!

Come on yar, a little seriousness please.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

To be [a weak state], or not to be, that is the question:​

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune [at the hands of the Afgans being the slaves of India],
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles [Fight till the Last Pak]
And by opposing end them [the Afgans being the slaves of India]. To die—to sleep,
No more [appeasing the Afgans]; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks [terror attacks every day]
That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep, perchance to dream [Afgans = rational human beings]—ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil [gather strength to take the Wakhan corridor],
Must give us pause—there's the respect [strong states have it]
That makes calamity of so long life. [Afgan terrorism forever]
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time [currently the Paks],
Th'oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns [PMA cadets graduate as cobras but retire as garden snakes]
That patient merit of th'unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life, [strength of a wolf, but heart of a lamb]
But that the dread of something after death, [timidity in front of the Afgans]
The undiscovere'd country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have [being happy to be terrorized by the Afgans]
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience doth make cowards of us all, [Ummet is a two way thing]
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment [robotic warfare technologies]
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action.

BY WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE
(from Hamlet, spoken by Hamlet)

 

[RescueRanger]

To be [a weak state], or not to be, that is the question:​

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune [at the hands of the Afgans being the slaves of India],
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them [the Afgans being the slaves of India]. To die—to sleep,
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause—there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th'oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th'unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovere'd country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience doth make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action.

BY WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE
(from Hamlet, spoken by Hamlet)

“In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility; but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger; stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with hard-favor'd rage.”
​

― William Shakespeare, Henry V

 

[MapleKing]

Pakistan is a secular state, pretending to be an Islamic state, ruling over a Muslim polity, resenting them for being so, trying its best to secularize them, who in turn are trying to Islamize it.

Solve this identity crisis and you'll be an unstoppable force. TTP te shai hi koi ni.

 

[hussain0216]

what strong msg? record tali p0rn? this is what your mouaziz idara is good at!

Let's be fair, they ensured the collapse of the Afghan republic

The Afghans may be dangar that keep committing terrorism, but they have been well and truly screwed by Pakistan

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pakistan is a secular state, pretending to be an Islamic state, ruling over a Muslim polity, resenting them for being so, trying its best to secularize them, who in turn are trying to Islamize it.

Solve this identity crisis and you'll be an unstoppable force. TTP te shai hi koi ni.

The Turkish way:

Vatan = Millet = Bayrak (flag) = Din = Azan = Shehadet

 

[PakFactor]

Pakistan is a secular state, pretending to be an Islamic state, ruling over a Muslim polity, resenting them for being so, trying its best to secularize them, who in turn are trying to Islamize it.

Solve this identity crisis and you'll be an unstoppable force. TTP te shai hi koi ni.

We've never truly developed our identity or culture since our inception as a country. We've come out of slavery into another form of slavery, never truly a free people; I guess we never had the mindset to assert our freedom and truly define ourselves as a nation. We have no morals or character, a blank canvas allowing others to write who we are. Hiddenly, we watch Bollywood and practice a deformed version of religion mixed with superstition borrowed from our neighbor. Borrowing other heroes when none is found at home. A nation in an identity crisis.

What you mentioned is at the core of our problem.