Yarmook-Class Corvette/OPV | Updates & Discussion

[Khanasifm]

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Each Vls cell is quad ie 4 missiles or single missile does not look similar to the Vls on Turkish babar class and modern Vls can pack multiple missiles Sams

 

[arslank01]

Each Vls cell is quad ie 4 missiles or single missile does not look similar to the Vls on Turkish babar class and modern Vls can pack multiple missiles Sams

single

 

[Yasser76]

T54's and Mig 21's are also used the world over...whats your point?

Gun based CIWS is not the way forward. Missile based solutions are, this is why the world is making the switch where affordable. RIM-116 like solution is not cheap. One RAM costs in excess of a million dollars.

Just some logic here:

Lets say we have a ton of metal shrapnel flying towards you at Mach 3, would you rather it be intercepted at 10km out or 1km?

I take it you'd choose the former.

The best part is there is literally modern examples of what i am saying.

The soviets lost a Nanchuka class corvette during a P-15 Termit test, a slow, old, clunky missile, fired upon by two AK630, intercepted, however, due to the KE and size of the missile, it continued travelling towards the ship, sinking it and killing its crew.

During a US live fire test, a phalanx successfully intercepted a Firebee drone, however, once again, flying shrapnel is still dangerous, the subsonic ball of flying metal punched a hole in the superstructure and killed a sailor, POST interception.

Now imagine, the same scenario, but the metal is travelling at mach 3, for now, future threats mach 4/5, if those two examples, travelling orders of magnitude slower were able to do such significant damage, i dread to think what BrahMos is capable of.

Gun based CIWS just does the job, thats it, in most cases it will disable and take care of less capable missiles, such as exocet or older harpoon's, but good luck using gun based CIWS against threats like Oniks, or BrahMos or even those like NSM etc.

The only sort of improvement that has been made in recent times to gun based ciws is either increasing the ROF or introducing new types of ammo to increase effectiveness, Gokdeniz uses ATOM, an airburst round designed to increase effectiveness of the weapon but once again, that does not solve the core issue which is the interception range, or lack thereof.

When you say being used world over, you must not be paying attention, most navies are switching to missile based solutions, infact, i think it was the RCN who took it a step further, using a loadout of standard missiles, alongside ESSM and then CAMM for close in interception.

The PN would not be selecting gun based solutions if they had the ability to equip RAM on all of their ships, but they do not, the cost of a CAMM missile is probably not super far off of the cost of a RAM.

That is a long winded explanation to say you cannot admit you are wrong. RAM is of course better then Phalnax, but you specifically said Phalnax is "obsolete" which is not the case when most of NATO uses it and it has been used successfully in combat just a month ago?
Also how can you compare GOKDENIZ to a MIG-21? You do know when is a ultra modern system and another a 70 year old plane right?

You may fear Brahmhos, but I will get with US tech that is being used by most of NATO any day of the week. If it can handle Iranian missiles it can handle what India can throw at it

 

[arslank01]

That is a long winded explanation to say you cannot admit you are wrong. RAM is of course better then Phalnax, but you specifically said Phalnax is "obsolete" which is not the case when most of NATO uses it and it has been used successfully in combat just a month ago?

because it is obsolete. Slap 10 phalanx on a ship, itll get shredded to bits still by a brahmos barrage.

 

[LegionnairE]

These are very new ships and already going through an upgrade?

Pakistan should have bought Ada class instead. Proven design. Much more capable.

 

[arslank01]

These are very new ships and already going through an upgrade?

Pakistan should have bought Ada class instead. Proven design. Much more capable.

upgrade where? These batch 2 ships are better armed than any Ada class

 

[LegionnairE]

upgrade where? These batch 2 ships are better armed than any Ada class

how?

 

[LegionnairE]

How is this:

Better armed than this:
??

 

[arslank01]

How is this:

Better armed than this:
??

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the second picture just has more labels lol. The pictures also answer your question, without even accounting for the massive cost difference between the two platforms.

 

[LegionnairE]

the second picture just has more labels lol. The pictures also answer your question, without even accounting for the massive cost difference between the two platforms.

okay

 

[ghazi52]

Defence Insider
@defence_insider
Mar 7

A model of Pakistan Navy's Off-shore Patrol Vessel (OPV) 2600 being constructed by @damen was showcased on the company pavilion at #DIMDEX2024.

The ship's armament includes:
1 x OTO Marlin 4
02 x 6 VLS Cells for CAMM-ER SAMs
2 x 2 P-282 SSMs
1 x Gokdeniz CIWS :
@navalnewscom

 

[Raiden]

The Yarmook class OPV and our OPV 90 currently under construction will be contesting for the most armed OPV

 

[Cool_Soldier]

What is status of Megim Class 4 Vessels?
Are four of these commioned in PN?

 

[cord]

How is this:

Better armed than this:
??

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Milgem is a bad design Yarmook is more suited for any Navy

 

[LegionnairE]

Milgem is a bad design Yarmook is more suited for any Navy

I won't even dignify this with a response